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| Birth Ceremonies |
Author: InterfaithFamily.com Editor (---.ne.mediaone.net)
Date: 04-17-01 21:35
Dear Readers,
We welcome your comments and reactions to our articles about birth ceremonies here. We have closed the previous discussion on birth ceremonies and rituals. It became an extended debate about theology, with expressions of hostility towards Jewish ritual, which is not consistent with the purpose of this discussion. We look forward to hearing what you think about the professional advice and personal stories in this issue. |
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Author: Carol (65.96.5.---)
Date: 04-18-01 13:36
I found Ruth Goldberger's personal story quite moving, especially after having read her professional view article. I would like to see more articles about the tough decisions, like hers, to invite her parents to a ceremony that she knew would be difficult for them, and how she handled it. |
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| bris anyone? |
Author: olivia (---.aatech.com)
Date: 04-27-01 12:28
Funny how there's no articles on bris for interfaith families. Maybe that's because nobody wants to address how traumatic this can actually be for the non-jewish mother. Any takers?
InterfaithFamily.com Editor wrote:
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Dear Readers,
We welcome your comments and reactions to our articles about birth ceremonies here. We have closed the previous discussion on birth ceremonies and rituals. It became an extended debate about theology, with expressions of hostility towards Jewish ritual, which is not consistent with the purpose of this discussion. We look forward to hearing what you think about the professional advice and personal stories in this issue. |
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| Staci Kennedy's article |
Author: Brenda (145.36.248.---)
Date: 05-01-01 06:27
I appreciated Staci Kennedy's article. Her rabbi's setting a limitation on the place of her non-Jewish partner on the bima rang bells. Depending on the congregation and the rabbi themselves, very diffferent poossibilities are open. When our daughter was born nearly 14 years ago, we were one of the first to hold a name-giving service for a daughter. We choose to held it at home 9 days after her birth. At that point I would not have been well enough to have gone to shul for an entire morning. As our congregation did not yet have a ceremony text, I wrote one during the end of the pregnancy. One rabbi who proof-read my draft of the ceremony thought it was fine but our rabbi set certain limitations. He would not let my husband read a translation of any of the Hebrew prayers. Anything at the beginning or end, but not in the middle of the ritual.
Something similar still holds during bar/bar mitzvahs in shul. The non-Jewish partner is allowed on the bima (with doors open) after the child has completed their reading of the torah, before the rabbi says the blessing over the child.
A question of sensabilities?
I was impressed that a compromise acceptable to all was found. |
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| articles on circumcision (bris) |
Author: Ronnie Friedland, Editor (---.ne.mediaone.net)
Date: 05-01-01 09:19
Dear Olivia,
Our most recent issue dealt with circumcision. Please go to Past Issues for Birth Ceremonies, in April, 2001.
All the best,
Ronnie Friedland, Editor |
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| John III? John IV? John XXVII? |
Author: Susan (---.milwaukee.k12.wi.us)
Date: 05-03-01 12:22
My father was "James II," having been named after his grandfather. He insisted on naming my brother "James III", even though his grandfather had already been dead for a few years. According to the etiquette books, unless one is a king or queen or pope, when the previous holder of the name dies, the junior holder properly takes the senior holder's number, so my dad should have been promoted to "James I" (correctly, "James Sr.") and my brother's name should have been "James II" (correctly, "James Jr."). But then, etiquette probably doesn't matter so much to people with such egotistical dynastic affectations. I never thought it was a good idea having two Jims in the family, and my brother, who is now over half a century old, still had to deal with our mother calling him "Jimmy" to tell them apart. But, oy! Who heeds my advice?
The other stupid mistake (by the naming parent's own admission) people in my family have made is to fail to give a child a middle name. I used to have a roommate who was actually assigned the middle name of NMI by the U.S. army, because he had No Middle Initial. If one has two heritages, the best idea is to give the child two names. She can be Chelsea Ruth Cohen or Rachel Kensington Kleinberg, or he can be John Benjamin Smith or Joseph Throckmorton Jones.
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Author: Susan (---.milwaukee.k12.wi.us)
Date: 05-03-01 12:31
My message number 7 was intended as a reply to the Paula Brody piece on choosing names for babies. While I'm at it, let me cast a vote for the Ashkenazi custom she mentions of naming babies for the beloved dead. You don't have to be Jewish to want to keep an ancestor's name alive, and neither does the ancestor have to be Jewish to deserve the honor. I've known Sephardi families where multiple people at family gatherings answer to the same name, which was the problem in our house. |
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| Naming Ceremony Readings |
Author: Simon (---.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk)
Date: 06-27-01 18:04
My non-Jewish wife and I are keen to hold some sort of naming ceremony for our daughter Tasia. We know that we want to be at home as opposed to in synagogue or a church, we want to plant a tree and we want our friends and family (of a bewildering variety of faiths) to enjoy and be moved by the experience.
Although Tasia is not Jewish (is she anything?) and we do not wish the ceremony to revolve around religion we certainly want to celebrate her heritage with the odd Jewish prayer and reading.
Could anyone suggest a suitable reading or source. I would be grateful for exact references as rural UK does not abound with Jewish reference material.
Many thanks. |
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| Tasia |
Author: Susan (---.milwaukee.k12.wi.us)
Date: 06-27-01 20:55
Simon:
Well, it sounds as if you've named her already, but <I> mazel tov </i> anyway. Your basic Jewish sources are as near as your standard Bible, in the part most British people call the "Old Testament"! [sic] There's that old reliable blessing, Numbers 6:24-26 which Jewish parents say over their children on Friday nights, but which is also used by Christians. |
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| Fr. Walter Cuenin's article |
Author: Bernadette (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 09-19-01 16:44
I greatly appreciated Fr. Walter Cuenin's article on the unbaptized child. I am in an interfaith marriage and am expecting the birth of our daughter in Nov. I have heard comments from well meaning friends and relatives that a child must be baptized in order to be accepted into heaven. I could not accept that God would disregard all that were not baptized-it simply did not make sense to me... Therefore, I thank you for sharing the current prespective for Catholics. |
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| reply to messge 12 |
Author: Yvonne Fischer-Aein (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 09-26-01 08:55
I too at first felt that I could live with out having my child baptized; however, after the miscarrage of my first child my feelings changed.
My husband is Jews and I am a Christian. We both have "duscussed" the situation at great lengths.
My husband realized that this was very important to me and has agreed to have our daughter be baptized.
We still celabreate and observe both Jews and Christian holadays and I hope and pray that I can we don't confuse are daughter in the process.
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| baptisim & Circumcisium |
Author: Steve Schmidt (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 10-08-01 22:54
My girlfriend and I are at the point in our relationship where we need to start making decisions on our future. I am jewish and she is catholic. We are currently trying to meet each other half-way. We are having problems comming to terms with what to do when we have kids. Do they get baptized or do they get Circumsized? Are people doing both? Can you do both? |
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| Baptisim Etiquette |
Author: Heather (---.chartersc.net)
Date: 11-29-01 17:10
My 2 year old twin daughters and I are all going to be Baptised at the same time at the end of the month. I was looking for some baptisim etiqutte for us and our guests. |
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Author: A Southern Jew (---.mpowercom.net)
Date: 11-29-01 17:50
Heather: Are you sure you're on the right website? |
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Author: stinkybuttman (---.summit.net)
Date: 12-02-01 16:07
Circumcisium is done by more Christians than jews. Close? Secretly i put it in your religion 2500 years ago. It is painful without pain killer on babies with sensitve free never endings. Who can tell if a baby feels pain. It hurts. God never said do it. Few if any health benefts. My fault. sorry. Actually did not originate with Jews or Arabs. It was before religion. |
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| to "stinkybuttman" |
Author: John Chromn (---.nas35.somerville1.ma.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: 12-06-01 21:28
Regarding the last message (no.17): please, please get a life! |
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| Ignore, this is just a test. |
Author: IFF editors (---.ne.mediaone.net)
Date: 12-18-01 11:08
Ignore, this is just a test. |
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Having Jewish family origins in Eastern Europe.
The raised platform in front of the sanctuary which holds the ark in which the Torah is kept.
The ritual removal of the foreskin of the penis from boys on the eighth day after they are born. Following the circumcision, several blessings are recited and a celebration is held. More formally known as "brit milah."
People who attend and worship at a given synagogue.
The language of Judaism. Used in prayer in most synagogues and the official language of the state of Israel. Also refers to Jews, especially before they entered Israel and were given the Torah, as in "the ancient Hebrews."
Congratulations. Literally "good luck" in Hebrew.
Religious obligation or commandments; good deeds.
Spiritual leader and teacher. Typically, but not always, leads a congregation.
Having Jewish family origins in Spain, Portugal or North Africa.l
"Synagogue" in Yiddish.
Place of Jewish worship, referring to both the room where it occurs and the building where it occurs. Colloquially referred to as "temple."
The first five books of the Hebrew Bible, or the scroll that contains them.
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